Pondy Oxides & Chemicals Ltd — Q1 FY27 earnings call
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The short read
POCL reported Q1 FY27 revenue of Rs 931 crore, up 56% year-on-year, with EBITDA and PAT rising 30% and 32% respectively to Rs 56 crore and Rs 36 crore. Copper volumes grew more than 3x year-on-year on capacity ramp-up while lead volumes moderated due to supply chain disruptions, with management prioritizing value-added lead products that reached 85% of segment revenue. Management described progress on a 36,000 MTPA copper cathode project in Tamil Nadu, with Phase 1 of 18,000 MTPA on track for commissioning by December 2026 and Phase 2 targeted for Q3 FY28.
Numbers mentioned
Revenue: Rs 931 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“Revenue growth remained robust during Q1 FY27 with revenue increasing to INR931 crores, registering 56% year-on-year growth.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
EBITDA: Rs 56 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“EBITDA and PAT increased by 30% and 32% on a year-on-year basis to INR56 crores and INR36 crores, respectively.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
PAT: Rs 36 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“EBITDA and PAT increased by 30% and 32% on a year-on-year basis to INR56 crores and INR36 crores, respectively.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
EBITDA margin: 6% (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“In Q1 FY27, EBITDA and PAT margins remained strong at 6% and 3.9% in Q1 FY27.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Lead EBITDA per ton: INR21,595 (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“that enabled us to achieve our highest ever lead EBITDA per ton of INR21,595.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper EBITDA per ton: INR48,488 (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“The segment delivered strong profitability with copper EBITDA per ton rising 66% year-on-year to INR48,488.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Value-added products share of lead segment revenue: 85% (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“Within the lead vertical, value-added products accounted for 85% of the segment revenue reinforcing our strategic focus on increasing the share of higher-margin products.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper capex spent to date: INR25 crores (as of Q1 FY27)
p. 4
“We have already incurred around INR25 crores towards the project and execution remains on schedule with major equipment orders finalized and key construction activities underway.”
Ashish Bansal, page 4 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Working capital cycle: 46 days (Q1 FY27)
p. 16
“Currently, we are at 46 days”
Ashish Bansal, page 16 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Plastic division net profit: INR15 lakhs (Q1 FY27)
p. 10
“We have achieved about INR15 lakhs in terms of profit -- net profit.”
Vijay Balakrishnan, page 10 of the filed PDF · View the filing
What management said it would do
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Copper cathode Phase 1 commissioning — 18,000 MTPA · December 2026
stated firmly by Ashish Bansal
p. 4
“The first phase of 18,000 metric tons per annum is on track for commissioning by December 2026, with trial runs expected in Q4 FY27, while Phase 2 is targeted for commissioning by Q3 FY28.”
Ashish Bansal, page 4 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Sustainable lead EBITDA per ton — INR18,000 to INR20,000 per metric ton
stated firmly by Vijay Balakrishnan
p. 8
“we'll be able to retain the sustained EBITDA level of about INR18,000 to INR20,000 per metric ton. That is a sustainable level of EBITDA that will be maintained.”
Vijay Balakrishnan, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper EBITDA per ton (recycling, pre-value addition) — in excess of 40,000
stated firmly by Ashish Bansal
p. 13
“So we can safely guide above 40,000 would be for the part which was earlier, 35,000 to 40,000.”
Ashish Bansal, page 13 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Blended copper cathode margin — INR60,000 to INR65,000 per ton
stated firmly by Ashish Bansal
p. 17
“What we had guided was a blended margin profile on this should be in the range of around 60,000, 65,000.”
Ashish Bansal, page 17 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper capacity utilization in FY28 — over 80%, 90% · FY28
stated firmly by Ashish Bansal
p. 18
“In FY28, I mean, we are confident we'll be able to utilize over 80%, 90% of the capacity of 36,000 metric tons.”
Ashish Bansal, page 18 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Blended EBITDA margin target — 8% · 2030
stated as an aspiration by Ashish Bansal
p. 19
“We will be able to have a blend 8% by 2030 is what we have given the target, but we are confident we'll achieve much before that.”
Ashish Bansal, page 19 of the filed PDF · View the filing
2030 volume growth — over 15% · by 2030
stated as an aspiration by Ashish Bansal
p. 5
“Our target 2030 road map is focused on delivering over 15% volume growth, 20% plus CAGR in revenue and profitability, EBITDA margins above 8%,”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper share of overall revenue — approximately 45% · FY27
stated conditionally by Ashish Bansal
p. 5
“Copper is expected to contribute approximately 45% of our overall revenue in FY27 as capacity ramp-up progresses.”
Ashish Bansal, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
FY27 capex — INR175 crores · FY27
stated firmly by Ashish Bansal
p. 11
“The current INR25 crores is for the fresh capex that has already been spent. Out of approximately that INR175 crores, the maintenance capex will be in the range of INR20 crores, INR25 crores and balance INR140 crores to INR150 crores would be for the copper new plant division.”
Ashish Bansal, page 11 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Value-added mix for lead, full year — 65% to 70% · FY27
stated as an aspiration by Ashish Bansal
p. 10
“Yes. Annually, we are looking at around 65% to 70% on the value-added mix. Last year was at about 63%. And this year, we are expecting and targeting around 65% to 70%.”
Ashish Bansal, page 10 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Copper recycling capacity utilization — approximately 75% · FY27
stated conditionally by Ashish Bansal
p. 4
“The incremental 6,000 metric tons per annum copper recycling capacity commissioned in Q4 FY26 has ramped up well and is expected to achieve capacity utilization of approximately 75% through FY 2027.”
Ashish Bansal, page 4 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Q&A highlights
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Management said supply chain issues constrained volumes but they remain confident of catching up to the committed numbers.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Dheeraj Ram: Whether the lead volume guidance of 1.25-1.3 lakh tons for FY27 would be revised given the current run rate.
p. 6
“And we are confident at least we will be able to close up to the numbers that we had committed over the last quarter.”
Ashish Bansal, page 6 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management clarified there was no demand softening, only supply chain delays affecting shipments.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Sagar Shah: Whether there is demand softness in Western export markets given lower lead volumes.
p. 8
“Like I said, there is no softness in demand. There is a gap in supply because of delay in shipments and the supply chain disruptions. But overall, the demand is intact.”
Ashish Bansal, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management raised the guided range to above INR40,000 per ton, citing efficiencies from the added capacity.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Jigar Jani: Updated guidance for copper EBITDA per ton before value addition given the quarter surpassed prior guidance.
p. 13
“So we can safely guide above 40,000 would be for the part which was earlier, 35,000 to 40,000.”
Ashish Bansal, page 13 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management confirmed the payment was received on April 5, which is why the earlier cash flow appeared negative.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Saransh Gupta: Whether the receivables of around INR110-115 crore flagged in the last call were received.
p. 16
“That was received then was that it was received on April 5 itself.”
Ashish Bansal, page 16 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said roughly 70-80% of in-house recycled material, mostly lower grade, would be used internally with higher grade sold externally, and gave a blended cathode margin guide.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Dev: How much internally recycled copper versus externally sourced material will feed the new cathode plant.
p. 17
“We will be using almost close to 70%, 80% of our in-house recycled material or basically, the idea of using in-house will be the lower grade will be used for our production and the higher grade will be sold as it is,”
Ashish Bansal, page 17 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management declined to comment on the competitor and reiterated the reasons already given for their own volume decline.
Answered by Ashish Bansal
Asked by Nakul Gupta: Why POCL's lead volume decline was steeper than a competitor's reported 10% degrowth.
p. 24
“I won't be able to specifically comment on the competitor. But regarding our reasons, we have already given you the reasons in terms of why the volumes were lower.”
Ashish Bansal, page 24 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said the impact was minimal this quarter due to import-heavy sourcing but could help if domestic procurement rises.
Answered by K. Kumaravel
Asked by Aniket Gada: Whether EPR credits and battery waste management rules have improved lead realizations or margins.
p. 22
“Probably in the second quarter, we look on it if the domestic procurement improves, then we can have the benefit of EPR in the second quarter.”
K. Kumaravel, page 22 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Risks flagged
Supply chain delays through shipping routes affecting raw material availability for lead and copper.
p. 9
“the issue more than the Middle Eastern procurement is the supply chain in terms of the shipping route that is through the Hormuz and all of those, which are getting delayed.”
Ashish Bansal, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Rising fuel prices and additive costs increasing other expenses.
p. 8
“The major part is contributed by the fuel prices and a couple of additives prices that have shot up in the last 3 months.”
Ashish Bansal, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Elongation of the war could stretch sailing times and impact raw material pricing.
p. 12
“So because of it, there could be -- the sailing time would be a little longer and maybe a little impact on the pricing in terms of raw material overall.”
Ashish Bansal, page 12 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Lower capacity utilization at the new TKD lead facility due to focus on value-added products.
p. 7
“the capacity utilization is below 50%. And as you're aware, we had concentrated more this quarter having lower volumes to keep up the margins more on the value-added part.”
Ashish Bansal, page 7 of the filed PDF · View the filing
High domestic lead scrap pricing making domestic sourcing less viable during disruption.
p. 17
“The domestic pricing because the domestic market, understanding that there is a delay, the price delta was so high that if we had gone in for more domestic sourcing, our overall profitability in terms of per kg EBITDA would have drastically dropped.”
Ashish Bansal, page 17 of the filed PDF · View the filing
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