Updater Services Ltd — Q1 FY27 earnings call
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The short read
Updater Services reported Q1 FY27 consolidated revenue of Rs 764 crore, up 9% year-on-year, with the IFM segment growing 11% to Rs 525 crore and the BSS segment growing 7% to Rs 253 crore. Consolidated EBITDA stood at Rs 42 crore with a margin of 5.5%, and consolidated PAT was Rs 30.3 crore for the quarter. Management also discussed the Board's approval of an interim dividend of Rs 1 per share and highlighted margin improvement in the Matrix business alongside continued investment in agentic AI capabilities across Denave and Athena.
Numbers mentioned
Revenue from operations: INR764 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“The revenue from operations for the quarter FY '27 grew by 9% yearover-year to INR764 crores as compared to INR700 crores in comparative period Q1 FY '26.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
IFM segment revenue: INR525 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“The IFM segment grew by 11% year-year to INR525 crores and the BSS segment grew by 7% year-over-year to INR253 crores.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Consolidated EBITDA: INR42 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“Consolidated EBITDA for Q1 FY '27 stood at INR42 crores.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
EBITDA margin: 5.5% (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“EBITDA margin for the quarter is at 5.5%, that is INR42 crores.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Consolidated PAT: INR30.3 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“The consolidated PAT for the quarter is at INR30.3 crores for the Q1 FY '27.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Return on capital employed: 16.1% (Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“Coming back to return on capital employed is at 16.1% for the quarter.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Net debt to equity: negative 0.24x (as of June 2026)
p. 9
“Net debt to equity stood at negative 0.24x as of June 2026, reflecting our strong cash position and generation during the quarter.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
IFM EBITDA margin: 4.5% (Q1 FY27)
p. 3
“EBITDA for Q1 FY '27 stood at INR24 crores with a margin of about 4.5%.”
Raghunandana Tangirala, page 3 of the filed PDF · View the filing
BSS segment EBITDA margin: 7.5% (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“EBITDA for the division stood at INR19 crores with a margin of 7.5% as compared to 6.9% during the last similar quarter, Q1 of last year.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Denave revenue: INR161 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“Our sales enablement business under Denave reported a revenue of INR161 crores, registering an 18% year-on-year growth with an EBITDA of INR7 crores and an EBITDA margin of 4.3%.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Athena revenue: INR28 crores (FY27)
p. 5
“The revenue of our sales enablement business under Athena, which is our BFSI-focused B2B business, which we run for mainly for banks, insurance companies, etcetera, in FY '27 stood at INR28 crores with an EBITDA of INR5 crores.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Athena EBITDA margin: 18% (Q1 FY27)
p. 5
“And an EBITDA margin of 18%.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Global (flight handling) EBITDA margin: 9% (Q1 FY27)
p. 4
“We are proud to report Global's highest ever profitability, EBITDA of 9%, up from 5% last year, driven by higher-margin non-scheduled flights and strong seasonal traffic.”
Raghunandana Tangirala, page 4 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Matrix EBITDA: INR4.2 crores (Q1 FY27)
p. 8
“So from INR2.4 crores in the same quarter last year, we are now at INR4.2 crores and margins instead of 7.6%, now are at 13.1%.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Headcount: 76,991 (as of Q1 FY27)
p. 9
“On headcount, we have crossed 76,991 with 60,2771 coming from IFM segment and 16,7142 from the BSS segment.”
Ram Praveen, page 9 of the filed PDF · View the filing
What management said it would do
A record of statements made on the call, in the words management used. Parakho does not forecast, endorse or assess them, and their presence here is not a view on whether they will happen.
Revenue mix between IFM and BSS — roughly 2/3, 1/3 · next 2 to 3 years
stated as an aspiration by Amitabh Jaipuria
p. 11
“So our revenue mix at roughly 2/3, 1/3 has actually been quite steady over the past few years. Going forward, we expect this to continue, because both our businesses are, we believe, can grow low double-digit numbers, which is in the region of around 9%, 10%, 11%, 12%.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 11 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Formal earnings guidance
stated firmly by Amitabh Jaipuria
p. 13
“We normally don't give formal guidance. So I think we will continue with that.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 13 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Audit and Assurance business results — H2 FY27
stated as an aspiration by Amitabh Jaipuria
p. 8
“Results are expected in H2 of '27, and you will start seeing those trends.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Matrix/EBGC margin profile — this year
stated firmly by Amitabh Jaipuria
p. 10
“So for this year, we do believe that these volumes and these margins are sustainable.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 10 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Avon value-added services mix — rest of FY27
stated as an aspiration by Raghunandana Tangirala
p. 4
“As we move through the rest of FY '27, we remain confident that this expanding mix of value-added services will support sustainable growth and margin improvement for the business.”
Raghunandana Tangirala, page 4 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Q&A highlights
Management's answers to analyst questions, in Parakho's words rather than a transcript. Each row names who answered and carries the verbatim quote it was drawn from.
Management said EBGC margins and volumes are sustainable due to cost optimization, and IFM margins have been stable with minor variations from cost/contract timing, not expected to decline further.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Love Gupta: Are the margin improvements in Matrix/EBGC sustainable, and has IFM margin moderation from employee additions ended?
p. 10
“We believe that this margin profile is sustainable. Also on back of a lot of cost optimization that we are doing at our back end.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 10 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management outlined three uses of cash: inorganic growth, organic/brownfield growth, and shareholder rewards including the recently declared dividend.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Love Gupta: What are the plans for utilizing the cash balance, and are any acquisitions planned?
p. 10
“One remains inorganic, the second bucket will be brownfield growth, which means organic growth.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 10 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said there is currently no buyback proposal before the Board but did not rule it out for the future.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Love Gupta: Is a share buyback being considered?
p. 11
“Right now, there is no proposal to buy back shares on -- in front of the board, and there is not a discussion on it.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 11 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said agentic AI will be important but they do not foresee wholesale replacement of human agents in BFSI near-term, though adoption will be faster in areas like service calls and satisfaction surveys.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Adinath Chauhan: Can agentic AI become a meaningful revenue contributor for Athena over the next 3 years, and what margin profile is expected?
p. 11
“However, at this particular point in time, we are not seeing any wholesale replacement of human agents, especially in the BFSI sector, and we don't see this happening in the near term.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 11 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management attributed the apparent decline to a prior-year restatement in Avon that inflated the Q4 FY26 comparison base, and said underlying EBITDA levels were largely similar.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Diksha Motwani: Why did BSS EBITDA margin fall from 11.5% in March to 7.5% in June?
p. 12
“If you take that impact out, then actual last year, Q4 '26 BSS segment delivered an EBITDA of INR19.1 crores. And this year, we have delivered INR18.9 crores.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 12 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said the deal is currently on hold due to valuation disagreements but could revive, and the company continues to evaluate other acquisition targets.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Diksha Motwani: Is there any update on the pending acquisition?
p. 12
“So the conversation that we have been having, at this particular point in time, that deal is on hold because there are differences in terms of valuation.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 12 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management reiterated they do not give formal guidance and pointed to Q1 performance as an indicator.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Aryan Vijan: Can the company provide guidance for this year?
p. 13
“What we have said, I mean, you can take our Q1 number as an indicator. And that is what you can sort of perhaps extrapolate, but we are not giving formal guidance.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 13 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said there is no conversation between the companies and understood SIS's share purchases to be a treasury operation, noting the founder and family retain a majority stake.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Yash Mishra: Does management have any comments on SIS's acquisition of shares in UDS?
p. 13
“Also Mr. Tangirala, our Founder and our Chairperson continues -- he and his family continue to own 59.1% of the equity.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 13 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management confirmed labor shortages are real in certain states, but said the company uses recruitment teams in labor-surplus states to redeploy workers and that the pass-through model helps manage cost impacts.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Abhinav Mandowara: Has labor shortage and wage hikes impacted Q1, given pass-through contracts?
p. 14
“So there is a labor shortage in many states. There are labor surplus states in this country, and there are labor short states in this country.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 14 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management confirmed some seasonality, particularly lower catering demand in Q1 due to campus closures, and higher festive-season demand in Q2 and Q3.
Answered by Amitabh Jaipuria
Asked by Deeya Jain: Is there seasonality in the business related to hiring cycles or audit seasons?
p. 14
“So in Q1, catering usually is -- it does -- it's low because it's also gone through some amount of campus closures, vacations, et cetera, et cetera.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 14 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management explained a manpower-related tax benefit flows through as headcount grows, and that the consolidated tax rate movement also reflects business mix, since Matrix does not receive the same tax benefit.
Answered by Ram Praveen
Asked by Mehul: Why did the tax expense shift significantly between Q4 and Q1?
p. 15
“This is in continuation with the tax benefit that flows through for this service -- manpower intense service industry.”
Ram Praveen, page 15 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Management said there is no spillover, as the transportation-related Avon revenue and expenses were fully squared off in the prior financial year.
Answered by Ram Praveen
Asked by Mehul: Is there any spillover of Avon-related expenses into the current quarter?
p. 15
“No. No. There is no spillover for Avon. The transportation related Avon either revenue or expenses, everything has been squared in the last financial year.”
Ram Praveen, page 15 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Risks flagged
Labor shortages in certain states affecting workforce availability
p. 14
“So there is a labor shortage in many states. There are labor surplus states in this country, and there are labor short states in this country.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 14 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Postponement of large client audits affecting Audit and Assurance revenue
p. 5
“The primary reason was the postponement of several large client audits with projects originally scheduled for May getting deferred to June and July.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 5 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Subdued hiring in banking and BPO segments affecting EBGC volumes
p. 8
“In EBGC, as mentioned earlier, the business has picked up quite nicely, but we continue to see subdued hiring in banking and the BPO segments, along with mixed IT trends, which has impacted our overall volumes, but IT has come back to some extent.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 8 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Margin pressure in Denave from business mix shift and customer budget planning
p. 6
“On margins, we saw pressure during the quarter, driven by 2 factors. First, a change in business mix, a greater skew towards field marketing services, which operates at a low margin. Second, budget planning of one of our large customer also have been a factor.”
Sunil Munshi, page 6 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Selective technology spending in certain global markets
p. 6
“While technology spending, we still see spending remaining selective in certain global markets.”
Sunil Munshi, page 6 of the filed PDF · View the filing
Pending acquisition on hold due to valuation disagreement
p. 12
“So the conversation that we have been having, at this particular point in time, that deal is on hold because there are differences in terms of valuation.”
Amitabh Jaipuria, page 12 of the filed PDF · View the filing
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